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It depends on the area. The way it works around where I live is that the dentist makes the referral. It isn’t sent to a hospital but a centralised office who assess and then either bounce it back to the dentist (just because a patient demands does not mean that they are eligible for hospital treatment), sends it onwards to a specialist practice or for very difficult cases sends it on to the hospital. On the most part it’s a good system as it keeps the waiting list down for the difficult cases.
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According to the NHS choices website a dentist MAY suggest a tooth coloured filling if it is on the front teeth, but nothing to say that it is compulsory. I guess the FP17 form is because the initial exam was on the NHS.
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The NHS doesn't pay more for exempt patients than for paying patients. Just send off the receipts showing that you paid for your treatment.
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Didn't you think it strange at the time that they didn't charge you for your treatment?
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What do you mean Pin that it is like for like? Does that mean you will be getting a gold crown and the fill on the NHS would be metal?
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Don't really understand your point King. Just because the parent is concerned about their child does not mean the professional is concerned that there is a safeguarding issue going on. That flowchart is not aimed at parents!
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That is absolute crap king. Does the history or nature of the injury raise any concerns? The answer is not always yes. Child having a broken arm from falling off a trampoline...Child with cuts/ abrasions from falling over... In this case it was the fact the child could not use the leg although there was no obvious problems that alerted them. If they had been able to say that the child had been playing tag in the playground and tripped, then I can assure you it would have gone no further. Social services are over stretched - they aren't looking for work.
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I think what zippy is getting at is that the Labour government spent billions of tax payers money on the "super computer" despite people saying that it wouldn't work and in the end it got scrapped anyway. That is what has broken the NHS not the training of staff.
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Am I self employes
Goldenleaf replied to frustratedinc's topic in Self Employment Issues and Questions
As far as employment law is concerned whether someone is truly an employee, a worker or self-employed will depend on a number of factors and whilst the contract and the fact the person pays their own tax/ni is pretty persuasive, a tribunal will look at the practical realities, including how much control the individual has over the work they perform (the control test), whether they have the right to refuse work (mutuality of obligation) and the unfettered right to send a substitute. -
Nolegion I don't know what case you have made. As I keep saying there is a big difference between an NHS dentist saying I can't do this on the NHS but can do it privately and an NHS or private dentist saying I can't do this proceedure, it is beyond my expertise but I can refer you to a specialist who can. Just because treatments are available on the NHS does not mean all cases can be treated by non-specialists.
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Well what? Firstly the dentist in question is private NOT NHS. Secondly I am saying that there have not been enough symptoms in the OP to either agree or disagree with your statement.
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Nolegion, what I am suggesting is that the dentist the OP is referring to has said that the work should be carried out by a specialist which is not available on the NHS. The OP has NOT said that the dentist told her that root canal treatment was not available on the NHS.
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Susie58 reports her dentist said root canal work:- "…was not carried out by NHS and the only way we could have it was private… !" Wrong!! Suzie58 reports her dentist said "daughter needed specialist treatment and there were absesses forming along the top of her front teeth and she needed to see a endodontist. He said this work was not carried out by NHS and the only way we could have it was private - and pay!" It's all in the wording. There is a big difference between a dentist saying I can't do this treatment on the NHS but I can do it privately and a dentist saying I can't do this treatment at all, but I know someone who can however it will be private.
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My question is should he have referred us to the NHS dentist for this work to be carried out due to her age? No, it is up to you to seek out NHS treatment, not for a private dentist to refer you to one. Saying that it is very rare to find a specialist endodontist on the NHS, so even an NHS dentist would probably have to refer you to a private specialist if it was beyond their expertise.
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self employmnt expenses
Goldenleaf replied to boloney's topic in Self Employment Issues and Questions
You cannot claim for journeys from your home to your permanent workplace (it is considered ordinary commuting) that goes for both your bike and public transport. -
Perhaps the practice only had an NHS contract for those under 18 so legally they can't see her or they would be in breach of their contract. They have not taken away her right to a dentist. She is free to go to another dentist
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If you google iotn the top post should be the British orthodontic society which will explain the IOTN score. Basically the cut off for NHS treatment is a score of 3.6. There is also a thread on moneysavingexpert.com that might help with more advice. Sorry I can't help any further
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I have been on one journey before now where a seat was double booked, both tickets appeared perfectly legitimate and the train was very crowded so I don't think I ever saw the ticket inspector. Another time I politely informed someone that they were in my seat only to be told that I had to ask the person sitting in HER seat to move!
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No I am not a dentist but I talk to my dentist and listen to what he says. I would be very grateful to have an NHS dentist but unfortunately live in an area of the country where they are rarer than gold dust and consequently have to pay a small fortune for dentistry and that is without having to pay for implants. As for your final query I was curious as to how much I would be paying for treatment if I was on the NHS so I googled "NHS charges" and this site came up. I'm sure not all dentists are above reproach but likewise I am sure that they are not all "ripping" people off.
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To answer your question, invisalign is not available on the NHS. All that would be available would be the metal train tracks which you are likely to be too old for anyway
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4 weeks is more than long enough to see the results of someone brushing properly. The orthodontist was absolutely right to refuse to treat your daughter and in fact would have been negligent if they had done otherwise
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Wow a metal bridge and 3 capped teeth for £300. You should be laughing that you got it so cheap. Congratulations for finding a dentist that will do it for you.
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Erm actually an NHS root canal cost £46.50 or something and 40% success rate means that you have a 40% chance of not having to have the tooth taken out. Yes it is false economy but til the government sort out NHS dentistry it is something you will have to put up with I'm afraid. I mean how can a system where someone who needs 5 fillings pays the same as someone who only needs one ever work?
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Right, forgive me if I am wrong but I thought teeth were very important for eating with and had to last a lifetime? So why are people complaining about the NHS charges? Which, as the title suggests are set by the NHS and not the dentist. Think about your car. Every year it needs a service and a MOT (not cheap), parts need replacing on a car which are more expensive than fillings AND you don't expect your car to last a lifetime you will replace it (can't do that with teeth). A little perspective here please people. Also, as someone has already stated, you should be grateful you HAVE an NHS dentist
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