Hi Plod, I have been through this about 5 years ago and the ignore option worked. They just stopped contacting me. What concerns me this time is that I was in a disabled spot. Not sure if that changes things , from the sounds of things it looks like firms are now sending out court papers.

HI, Quick question regarding Schedule 4 http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2012/9/schedule/4/enacted Section 9 i) states the following (i)specify the date on which the notice is sent (where it is sent by post) or given (in any other case). Given Schedule 4 is for 'recovery of unpaid parking charges' I assume its for correspondence after the initial ticket? I received a ticket for parking in a disabled spot without a blue badge at a local retail park. I ignored the ticket and the first letter where they provided a picture of my car in said spot. The next letter I received from Debt Recovery Plus did not have a date stamp on it, despite asking for funds 14 days of the date of this letter. Still have letter. Is everything now null and void as they didnt adhere to Schedule 4 procedures? I have since received a Note of Intended Litigation from DRP and more recently a 'Notice of Debt Recovery Assignment' from Zenith, who are now offering a reduced fee or £80 if paid within 14 days. ha On another note are they allowed to try and claim £150 if the original ticket was £80 given... Paragraph 4, Point 5 of Schedule 4 states The maximum sum which may be recovered from the keeper by virtue of the right conferred by this paragraph is the amount specified in the notice to keeper under paragraph 8(2)© or (d) or, as the case may be, 9(2)(d) (less any payments towards the unpaid parking charges which are received after the time so specified). Thanks!

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Hi All, I had actually forgotten about this ticket until recently. I have just received a letter from Debt Recovery Plus . What should my next course of action be? Should I ignore this like the previous ones? What I did notice in the below is that it states payment must be made to them within 14 days of the date of this letter. The letter has no date stamp, which makes that tough or are they referring to the date it was received. Thanks in advance! The text of the letter is below: Our client has written to you previously explaining that your vehicle was parked in breach ofthe agreed terms and conditions regarding parking on the private land stated above. As payment has not been received our client has instructed us to recover the above monies from you. To avoid escalation, payment must be made to us within 14 days of the date of this letter. If you are having difficulty making the payment then please contact our office on 0844 561 0965 to discuss your proposal for payment. Paragraph 4 of schedule 4 ofThe Protection ofFreedoms Act 2012 refers to 'The recovery of unpaid parking charges.' It states that 'the creditor has the right to recover unpaid parking charges from the keeper ofthe vehicle' ifcertain conditions are met. We understand that those conditions have been met and that the above charge is due for payment. Ifyou believe that the conditions of schedule 4 have not been met then please put your representations in writing to us. Schedule 4 ofthe PoFA 2012 relating to private parking can be found at hUp:/lwww.iegislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2012/9/schedule!41enacted We are a member of the British Parking Association (BPA) and its Approved Operator Scheme and we adhere to its code of practice. We only act on behalfofparking companies who manage private land and whom are also members ofthe BPA's Approved Operators Scheme (AOS). Accordingly, ifwe do not receive full payment or contact from you with your proposal for payment, this matter may be passed to the landholder's solicitor to commence County Court proceedings. Please see our website www,debtrecovervolus .co.uk for further details. Always quote our reference number on all correspondence regarding this matter. Ifyou have made payment since the date ofthis letter then please ignore this reminder.

Oooooh I do love this site sometimes!!!!

Ha good point! My bad! OK OK, so if it were to go to court what would the defence be now? Now they dont have to prove the driver etc.

I usually do and this is the first time I have done this. I like to leave disabled ones or parent child ones to people who actually need them but I had driven round the whole car park looking for a space. In the past it was the driver that was required (sort of) to pay the fine. Now that it is the owner of the car who is liable whats to stop them actually taking people to court?

Hey, So its not as easy as just ignoring them like the 'good old days'

I've previously been issued with tickets and successfully had these revoked if you will.. the issuers gave up pursuing the costs. However reading through the forum it seems changes have taken place since my last one. The Scenario... I recently parked in a disabled spot at a local Currys/PC World as it was the only spot available and I was only popping into the store for 2 minutes at the most. Came back to my car and I had been given a ticket. I forget the cost but I believe it was £80. Ethics and morals aside I know I shouldn't have parked in a disabled spot etc etc is this ticket still enforceable? Previously I would ask the issuer to provide evidence of who was driving the car but it seems the liability could now be passed to the registered keeper anyway. Have times changed? From what I have read so far it sounds like these guys have been given more and more power to enforce them? Thanks,

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Great cheers guys, Ive sent them on. What happens after the final warning though? Do you get a Final, final warning, then a final final final warning? Im intrigued to find out how far they take this.

A further update from my mate who has had a letter from Graham White just as you all said lol The basic gist is a Notice of intended legal action - additional costs £207.25. Ballifs may attend your residence and seize goods if this costs is not settled. Again I know this is all threats of 'we will do this and we will do that bla bla bla'. Shall we just ignore these as they are just empty threats or is it time to write back at all? Cheers, Jared

Ha-ha. Id have loved to seen the guys face when he opens a letter asking for the case to be hurried along. I think my mate it happy to sit and let them send letter after letter. Sometimes its just good to get someone else to confirm what Ive been saying to make sure Im not talking about my rear! Thanks for the help guys.

Sorry thats my bad I didnt mean ballifs! I meant debt collectors. The debt collector letter has stated they'd seek legal advice on grounds for prosection. If anyone is able to edit the title from Ballif to Debt Collector that would be great! Sorry!

Im at work at the moment but Ive text my friend to see if he has a scanner so he can email me the letters. If not I'll do it this evening. He has text me back saying the debt collectors are called Roxburghe. I will post the letters as soon as I can though.