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Thank you. 
 

I took out student loans in 96-98 with the student loans company. I’ve been deferring ever since as I’ve always been under the earning threshold. 
 

This was changed to Erudio at some point but I never really took much notice of it. Only now am I finding out what an awful awful thing this was, I wish I had questioned it at the time. 
 

Today I received 3 notices of sums of arrears. I was completely shocked but also certain this was a mistake as I was sure I had deferred last year. As it turns out, it’s entirely possible that I didn’t defer but I cannot be sure because I am now locked out of my online account. 
 

they have already given my loans to Capquest although they have not notified me of this at all and I’ve received no communication from Capquest. 
 

I called Erudio, because of course, I thought this was definitely a mistake. The first person, abrupt and rude and said they couldn’t talk to me and I had to phone Capquest. I phone Capquest, holding for 30 mins before they tell me I can’t hold any longer and they’ll get the loans specialist to call me. Nothing so far. 
 

So I called Erudio back to hopefully get more information from a more helpful person. 
 

Went through it all with her. She said they have no record of a deferment for last year. My account was terminated in November 2021 and it was passed to Capquest on 6 June 22 (with no notice to me obviously). 
 

It’s hard to be too brief with this but I’ll try. I moved back to the U.K. in June 2020, I was 5 months pregnant. I was in temporary accommodation until September 2021 when I finally got social housing. At this point my baby was just about to turn 1. So it had been a reasonably stressful time with pandemic pregnancy and being a single mother.

 

I finally thought to update my postal address with Erudio on Feb 22 (apparently, again I can’t check this as I’m locked out of the account). My email and phone number have remained the same this whole time. Even when overseas I was on my U.K. phone number.

 

 

Erudio say that they sent everything to me by post, notice to defer etc to my old overseas address. I had a redirection set up but nothing came through obviously. But I cannot prove not receiving letters and they say, of course, that’s it my responsibility to keep on top of the account.

 

I can accept that to a degree, but man, the last 2 years have been TOUGH and though I’ve coped pretty well, if this is the only ball I’ve dropped then I’m actually amazed. Unfortunately, it’s most definitely the most expensive and traumatic one. 
 

At the same time, I feel like Erudio had ample opportunity to contact me to let me know the account was ‘in arrears’ and according to CAB website, they should have notified me before passing it to Capquest anyway. At this point, they have admitted they have had my current address for 4-5 months. 
 

I had been expecting to receive a deferment notice for this year but instead I apparently have a £9000 debt and a loan default. Last year I was still on maternity leave so definitely ok to defer, this year I am on universal credit with only sporadic work available due to lack of available childcare. 

 

this has knocked me for 6 today and having done some googling, I’m finding similar stories. Especially amongst people who are very close to their loans being written off. Also on this website I discovered that Erudio and Capquest are effectively the same company, which was eye opening. 
 

I hope that’s enough and not too much information. I just want Erudio to take back the loan and let me have my deferments. It’s highly unlikely that I’ll be earning above the threshold before the loans reach 25 years.  But if I can’t prove that I applied for one last year, what can I even do about it? I’ve already emailed the complaints@ email but not sure wher to go with this. 
 

Thanks so much for this website. Fingers crossed you may have some advice for me. I feel awful. 
 

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moved you to our SLC forum

100's of like threads here to read.

dont be scared of these people in the least

 

have you actually told erudio fleecers that you did not defer in writing rather than simply saying so on the phone?

PS never ever ring a fleecing DCA they LIE!!

 

so to clarify you HAVE deferred every year from say 2013 fwd and simply missed last year? correct?

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  • dx100uk changed the title to Erudio/Capquest now say my loans are due as missed last Deferment date

Turns out you didnt miss your deferment...😜

just fill this out and back date it.

Write them a letter saying you found a copy of what you sent as they didnt send one!!

 

 

 

Dx

 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Lots of like threads here.

Just scroll right up top and hit student loans/slc.

Have a good read around a few threads

Youll get the idea.

Id also use that form in the future, and if you have a dd setup for them. Protect yourself and cancel it.

Dx

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hi there.

I finally have a response from Erudio regarding my complaint about this.

I included scans of my completed deferment forms for this year and last year but they are saying they won’t accept them and that the debt is now with Capquest.

I had a missed call from Capquest this evening (ignored it and blocked the number). They want me to set up a payment plan. 

Erudio say this is their final correspondence on the matter. 

I know not to engage with Capquest thanks to your advice but I wonder what your advice is for next steps with Erudio. Is this when I go to the financial ombudsman?

Thanks so much. 

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Youll see there is another recent thread like your here today, outlining how to complain to the fos.

 

It might be prudent to see what they do next however.

 

Dx

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hi,

 

Erudio appear to have changed their processes for deferment in order to catch people out and are looking for any small offence in order to make student loans immediately payable. This appears to be happening especially to those who have loans from 1990-1998. 
 

I recently found a financial ombudsman decision which might help others who are currently fighting similar problems. 
 

https://www.financial-ombudsman.org.uk/decision/DRN-3629000.pdf

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they have not, as such, changed their process but i suspect stopped sending reminders via email?

they have always been like that.

there are 100's of threads here that are the same issue.

that fos decision was as a result of a user here.

dx

 

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NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I know they’ve always been terrible and I’ve found them utterly disgusting to deal with, I was referring on this occasion to how they decided to communicate with people in 2020. Prior to this, and for a number of years, they sent deferment reminders by email, in 2020, they only sent by post. I would think in an attempt to catch out people who hadn’t updated their address with them. Seemingly as this person did in this FO decision. 
 

I have read the thread before that you linked to, after reading that and looking further into it I was reluctant to take my complaint to FOS but after reading this latest decision from October 2022, I thought I might in fact take my complaint to them.

I thought others who have been reading threads on this website might also find it helpful/hopeful if they are in a similar situation which is why I posted it. 

I’m glad this person was successful as a result of this website. It’s been very helpful, thank you. , 

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there are several peaks in people being able via the age related rules that could potentially write off their loans coming up.

believe you me, Arrows are well aware of them and as time ticks they lose out on more and more money they should never be getting anyway.

 

they will and do pull every trick in the book to scam people into paying, when there is no need for them ever too if they simply question what they are being told. sadly most dont and quite wrongly believe these people are all powerful and tell the truth and they must cough up..

 

....we only see p'haps <.1% here

 

ive actually just seen the date on that one, i thought it was one of ours, but unless it took 6mts to get to the fos, the one i think it is was resolved the same way in march.

dx

 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Just wanted to finalise this story by sharing that I’ve had my complaint to FOS upheld. It’s been an anxiety and anger fuelled time but worth it to win against this disgusting company.  
 

Initially it was not upheld because they stated it was my responsibility to update my address and Erudio did nothing wrong.  But I added further comment and referred them to similar decisions where complaints had been upheld. 
 

The crucial element was that Erudio stopped sending deferment email reminders in 2021 and all those people who hadn’t updated their addresses did not remember to defer because everything was sent by post. 
 

FOS basically said that Erudio could and should have done more to contact me once the account went into arrears. They had my email address and phone number but didn’t use it. They stated that it is standard industry practice to trace a new address for people which they obviously didn’t attempt. Funny that once it was with Capquest, the phone calls were plentiful. 
 

Anyway, the decision hasn’t been published online yet but once there’s a link I’ll post it on this group. I realise we’ve only got another year or so for these particular loans but I hope I can help someone else by posting here. 

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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On 05/06/2023 at 20:43, Beingfleeced said:

Anyway, the decision hasn’t been published online yet but once there’s a link I’ll post it on this group. I realise we’ve only got another year or so for these particular loans but I hope I can help someone else by posting here. 

has this happened as we have a court claim where the details could be useful to us.

 

dx

 

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Just did another search but doesn’t look like the decision is online still. Don’t know why it’s taking so long. Happy to help with info if I can otherwise. I have the full decision as a pdf I can share somewhere? I just need to edit it to remove personal details  

Just by the by, Erudio have accepted the decision and the loan went back into deferment but they are still playing games with me by pretending that their system cannot update my account and put it back into deferment so that I keep getting threatening letters. That’s a whole other thing but my account will be aged out this year so just biding my time til October. 
 

Anyway, let me know how I can help. 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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hey great news thank you

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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